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[livejournal.com profile] alibee posted this-an article about a married couple, husband and wife who don't live together, and who, as I understand from the article, never have.

I can't imagine that working for my relationship with [livejournal.com profile] zedrikcayne. It's not compatible with our relationship and how we function as a couple. I'm wondering what others think about this-would you call this "marriage" or would you call it something else? Would you be able to make the kind of committment that your perception of marriage includes and live like this, or would it not work for you?

Then there was this post in [livejournal.com profile] parenting101. I've been involved in similar discussions elsewhere, too. It's about what to call a child's genitals. As we approach parenthood even more, this is something we've talked about; in my house, (mostly) proper names were used (I say "mostly" because my vulva and entire genital region were referred to as "vagina" but it's close enough, I think.) It doesn't make sense to me to not teach children proper names for body parts.

There's also this story I saw linked in [livejournal.com profile] catling's journal about Pat Robertson calling for a ban on pet adoptions by same sex couples. Yes. You read it correctly. And I was glad I didn't have a beverage when I read it. This is from "The Pace Press"-the student newspaper of Pace University (which is a legitimate university.)

Anyway, here's the article for your perusal, in case the link vanishes or you have trouble getting it to load...
Pat Robertson, host of 700 Club, has recently called for a federal law banning same sex couples from adopting pets. This is a comment on Ellen Degeneres' public outburst pertaining to her incorrect "re-gifting" of her adopted dog, Iggy, to her hairdresser. Must I continue?

"It is God's will for dogs to grow up in a loving home with a Dad and a Mom and I strongly praise Mutts & Moms for removing Iggy from a harmful lesbian environment," Robertson said on his show. He explained the Bible says pets need a mother and a father and Degeneres and girlfriend, Portia De Rossi, cannot provide that dynamic. "Where was the male role model in Iggy's life?" Robertson said.

This is how dead serious Robertson is: if the future president does not pass this law, he is going to initiate ballot measures in all the states to override the President's choice. This is what I look forward to next year - a gay pets adoption right?

According to Robertson, all animals, not just dogs, must be kept safe from the hell-ridden households of gay/lesbian couples.

"The plain fact is that same sex couples should not be allowed to raise dogs, fish, birds, hamsters, ferrets, lizards, or any other animal."

However, cats are the exception from the rule because "only liberals and pagans would ever want to raise those spawn of Beelzebub."

I'd like to believe everyone with a brain realizes that this is not only the dumbest call for a law ever brought up, but to play on a media uproar lasting two minutes of air time is a definite stretch to gain some sort of power. Mr. Robertson, this is a joke to me.

We are a country finding love for Tila Tequila, Bret Michaels and Flavor Flave on national television, and he is trying to push this idea that only a man and a woman together should have the right to adopt a pet. Love is far passed sacred these days, Pat. Please check your outdated allegations at the door.

I just hope nobody joins his pet salvation crusade. Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney and John McCain have already put forth their vote.



For the sake of marital harmony, I must partly retract my complaint about chocolate from the other night. He stopped on the way home (even though he was working late) and brought me chocolate. And, as I picked through the giant bag of candy he did bring home, I discovered individually wrapped Lemonheads which are one of my favorite candies.

And last, for now...there was a post on a forum I frequent about sex for baby making, and how, when you're actively trying to conceive, sometimes it needs a bit more excitement. I wanted to share what I wrote, because, well, I'm in love. What can I say?



We learned to laugh at bad sex.

I think we had more fun having bad sex and laughing about it sometimes than we have when we've had great sex. For us, because we were dealing with fertility issues on both sides, at certain time, sex became kind of a chore...just one of those things we did like washing the dishes. And so, it became less than exciting some of the time.

But we laughed about it. We laughed about how I'd make the grocery list in my head while we were having sex, or he'd try and solve work-related problems. About how we'd finish and he'd lay down next to me and instead of basking the the post-coital glow, we'd talk about cleaning the bathroom.

I think laughing together is one of the strengths of our marriage. If we couldn't laugh our way through the ups and downs and challenges we had when trying to conceive, we'd have really struggled with the crushing lows. Instead, we laughed and and while we might not have always enjoyed the sex, we enjoyed each other, and our love.


I've got another post brewing that comes from a conversation with my sister in law, but I need to more completely finish it before I post it.

Date: 2007-11-02 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yix.livejournal.com
You know, that sort of marriage wouldn't work for me because of the way we have chosen our kid(s). However, a professor of mine in college was married to another professor who worked at a college several states away. They had been married for a few decades at that point with the same living arrangement. Summers together, some weekends and school breaks. I thought it sounded lovely.

So yeah, I can totally imagine that.

Date: 2007-11-02 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yix.livejournal.com
Nope, no kids. I really do think that woman in the article got the raw end of the deal, but I think a lot of married women get the raw end of the deal...so it is hard to judge.

I actually do see a time in the future when I live in Massachusetts for part of the year. (Far in the future, when the kids are older.) But I don't think that's the same thing either.

Date: 2007-11-02 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tisiphone.livejournal.com
One of Nicolai's cousins has recently gotten divorced because she was a junior lecturer (an even less settled position in the UK than it is in the US) and didn't want to give it up, and he wanted kids and, you know, a wife that lived in the same county.

Date: 2007-11-02 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danger-chick.livejournal.com
It's really hard enough being a professor, especially one in the early stages of a career, and be a spouse and/or a parent. My advisor and her husband had a nanny, because between her professorship and his job they both needed someone who could play the part of a 1950s wife for them (i.e., dealt with the kids during the day, made dinner, cleaned the house, etc.). So they outsourced it.

Date: 2007-11-02 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tisiphone.livejournal.com
That might've worked, but they couldn't even get it together enough to live together most of the time. It was kind of sad, and it also really put me off the idea of an academic career.

Date: 2007-11-02 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danger-chick.livejournal.com
Yeah, they were able to live together, so it probably did work better. Also, most of their relationship, they worked particularly hard to remain in the same house. By her own admission, they had gotten married a bit too early, because they were about to graduate from Cambridge, which would mean both of their student visas would have been quickly revoked. He would have had to go back to New Zealand, if he hadn't married her and followed her back to America. Plus, he followed her from one state to the next when she didn't like her first teaching assignment.

She did turn me off an academic career in other ways, though. Even with a nanny, she worked incredibly hard at both work and home. And she once told me that I would be a terrible professor.

Date: 2007-11-02 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tisiphone.livejournal.com
I really do respect people who go into teaching at any level, but I don't think I could do it.

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